JOHN KEEL NOT AN AUTHORITY ON ANYTHING

August 9, 2021

The Answer (3)

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Fukagawa We continue with “The Answer,” John’s private summation of his beliefs about the UFO enigma, as of 1967. It was drawn from his “Special Cases” file, which records reports from contactees. In this section, he outlines his conclusions about the “Androids.”

Since some of you readers out there may chance upon this material unprepared, let me repeat that it’s an early phase of John’s work, superseded by later research. I think it’s of interest to his fans, though, and no doubt informed his public writings from that time.

11 Comments

  1. Again, this feels as if Jaye took the show The Invaders, added her own Asian twist to it, and was off to the races. I cannot prove it, but considering none of this came to pass in the last 50-plus years as far as we know, it seems to be the most sensible explanation. And don’t forget Woody Derenberger.

    Again, I’m not slagging on John. He obviously had witnessed legit mysterious lights in West Virginia with other credible witnesses, police officers, media (Mary Hyre), etc., had investigated dozens of sightings of ‘The Bird’ and thus was in a credulous state at the time. He, indeed, was looking for ‘The Answer’ and here was someone proffering it. Who’s to say Jaye didn’t give a couple of her friends $20 to show up in a black Cadillac–‘hey, it’ll help my career.’

    Comment by J.P. Pelzman — August 10, 2021 @ 1:28 am

  2. I guess this was well before the “grays” became popular. As ar as I know, John never commented much on them. Or did he and I am just not aware? Funny how this entire Asian looking twist has totally faded.

    Comment by John Gerard — August 10, 2021 @ 7:24 am

  3. I imagine if this had been the fall of 1966, Jaye (excuse me, Apple/Apol) would’ve said we all look and sound like Mr. Spock, because Star Trek had just burst onto the scene. I know I keep using this as a disclaimer, but I mean it. I respect JAK’s tireless work and research, but to borrow from that, it’s as if one or two incidents, including the encounter with the Cadillac, which obviously was real, were used to provide a frame of reference for everything Jaye told him ‘through’ Apple/Apol.

    And again, I think his own humanity tripped him up. He felt she was troubled (he WAS right, IMO) and thus he gave more credence to what she said. And maybe some of it wasn’t acting. Maybe some of it stemmed from delusions on Jaye’s part. Just spitballing.

    Comment by J.P. Pelzman — August 11, 2021 @ 9:09 am

  4. To finish my thought from comment #3, the Cadillac encounter was the ‘hard’ sighting in Keelian lingo, and the rest of the stuff Jaye ‘reported’ through Apple/Apol was the ‘soft’ stuff, once the Cadillac had provided the framework.

    Comment by J.P. Pelzman — August 11, 2021 @ 11:43 am

  5. I don’t remember if he discussed the grays. I think they were part of UFO lore before they were popularized by mainstream culture.

    Comment by Doug — August 12, 2021 @ 3:04 pm

  6. In fact, Jaye’s contact Agar was initially named “Afalyes of Trek.” At the time, as you point out, John was also getting reports from many other witnesses, including the more reliable Mary Hyre; he was also treated to phone and mail pranks by James Moseley, Gray Barker, and probably others. There was a lot of confusion! Jaye does seem emotionally distressed in many of John’s notes, so I suspect some inner turmoil informing her stories. I assume she also picked up some UFO lore from Long John Nebel’s radio show, which she must have listened to.

    Comment by Doug — August 12, 2021 @ 3:34 pm

  7. Doug, thanks for the info. I forgot about Agar. I guess I should also point out that John Agar (real name) was an actor whose career spanned 40-plus years, beginning with Westerns and later encompassing many sci-fi B movies. In fact, in the 1973 B-movie (and Bee movie, yuk, yuk) Invasion of the Bee Girls, the hero was played by the recently deceased prolific actor William Smith. The hero’s name? Neil Agar. Again, probably a tribute on both their parts. Jaye seemed to soak up pop culture like a sponge.

    As I pointed out long ago, some of the ‘freezing’ stories with the aliens seemed to be straight out of a ‘Bewitched’ plot.

    Comment by J.P. Pelzman — August 14, 2021 @ 12:23 pm

  8. Wow, Doug! “Afalyes of Trek”is surprising. Just a nearly forgotten trope of mid60s fantasy/sci-fi and the Asian “aliens.”Since Ms. Paro was a pop culture sponge, a popular trope at the time was casting Asians as villains on TV and in film. We were at the height of the Cold War and Communist China test fired its first nuclear missile in 1964. Of course 1967 the height of the Vietnam War. The evil Chinese Communist trope appeared on lots of shows – Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, The Outer Limits, etc. Maybe it’s a stretch, but perhaps Ms. Paro threw that idea in the mix.

    Comment by C. Hall — August 14, 2021 @ 8:15 pm

  9. I’m reminded too of The Asp, the mysterious Asian MIB who worked for Daddy Warbucks in “Little Orphan Annie.” I wonder if he influenced MIB reports, or if Harold Gray was drawing on folklore. It was probably a bit of both.

    Comment by Doug — August 16, 2021 @ 9:56 am

  10. The freezing was also featured in a famous episode of “The Twilight Zone” in 1963, “A Kind of Stopwatch,” in which a man has a watch that can stop time. I didn’t know about those Agars!

    Comment by Doug — August 16, 2021 @ 10:01 am

  11. The pod in the guest room has “blossumed” and taken over.

    Comment by BRIAN john KRAJCI — August 19, 2021 @ 6:59 pm

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